Datum: 28.06.2010 Uhrzeit: 12:02:29 Marco Matznohr Hallo, wenn es nicht ganz was spezielles ist, schau doch mal in der FC oder Flickr vorbei ob dort Bilder die für euch passen unter einer Creative-Commons-Lizenz ( http://de.creativecommons.org ) verö¶ffentlicht sind. Eine dort (inzwischen häufiger) anzutreffende Lizenz ist die CC-by-nc-sa – im Klartext: >>CommonCreative – Namensnennung – nicht kommerziell – weitergeben und verändern unter gleicher Lizenz erlaubt<<. Das würde bei euch passen, wenn ihr dann die Collage auch unter dieser Lizenz verö¶ffentlicht. Was braucht ihr denn für Bilder? Gruß Marco -- posted via https://oly-e.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Datum: 03.06.2008 Uhrzeit: 9:06:56 Wolfgang Teichler Hallo Hans, ich habe fünf Jahre auf Kuba gelebt und gearbeitet und weiss deshalb vielleicht ein bisschen mehr über das Leben auf Kuba und das Leben des Che. Deine Vergleiche hinken! Die Kamera wurde außerdem an seinen Sohn übergeben und das Foto ist nun mal eines der meistverbreiteten auf der Welt, wurde mit einer Leica gemacht und dies wurde garantiert nicht von Kuba oder der Sowjetunion aus gesteuert. The story about the image of Che Guevara - as told by Alberto Korda" Gutierrez (1928-2001) in Havana - December '93 The 5th of March 1960 the Belgian arms transport "La Coubre" exploded in Havana harbour killing 136 people. As a staff-photographer at the Cuban newspaper "Revolution" Alberto "Korda" Gutierrez was assigned to cover the following memorial ceremony held in Havana. Among the prominent guests were Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre. Fidel Castro held one of his endless speeches and Korda was shooting away when Che Guevara suddenly appeared on the stage. Korda pointed his Leica at Che and managed to make two shots of him before Che turned around and disappeared. Back in his darkroom Korda enlarged among others one of the Che frames. The editor at "Revolution" picked a Castro-picture for the newspaper and returned the rest. Korda liked the Che picture and put it on the wall in his Havana-studio. The picture was still hanging on the wall in 1967 by now tobacco-tinted though when a man knocked on the door. The person did not present himself but handed over a letter of introduction from a high-ranking member of the Cuban administration. The letter asked Korda to help this person in his search for a good Che picture. Korda pointed at the wall saying: "This is my best Che picture". The visitor agreed and asked for 2 copies of the print. Korda told him to return the next day which he did. When asked the price of the prints Korda replied that since the visitor was a friend of the revolution he didn't have to pay. What Korda didn't know was that the visitor was the famous Italian publisher Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. Well known in Europe for smuggling the "Dr. Zivago" manuscript out of The Soviet Union. Feltrinelli came to Cuba directly from Bolivia where he had been negotiating the release of Regis Debray. Having learnt from Debray that Che Guevara was the guerrilla-leader in Bolivia and that the end might be near Feltrinelli saw a business opportunity in the possible assassination of Che. The corpse of Che Guevara was hardly cold in Bolivia before you could buy big posters all around the world with the Korda-image of Che. Copyright Feltrinelli it said down in the corner. Korda told me that in half a year Feltrinelli sold 2.ooo.ooo posters. Later on the image has been transformed transplanted transmitted and transfigured all over the world. Korda never received a penny. For one reason only - Cuba had not signed the Berne Convention. Fidel Castro described the protection of intellectual property as imperialistic "bullshit". Gruß Wolfgang Teichler posted via https://oly-e.de" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Datum: 03.06.2008 Uhrzeit: 9:06:56 Wolfgang Teichler Hallo Hans, ich habe fünf Jahre auf Kuba gelebt und gearbeitet und weiss deshalb vielleicht ein bisschen mehr über das Leben auf Kuba und das Leben des Che. Deine Vergleiche hinken! Die Kamera wurde außerdem an seinen Sohn übergeben und das Foto ist nun mal eines der meistverbreiteten auf der Welt, wurde mit einer Leica gemacht und dies wurde garantiert nicht von Kuba oder der Sowjetunion aus gesteuert. The story about the image of Che Guevara - as told by Alberto Korda" Gutierrez (1928-2001) in Havana - December '93 The 5th of March 1960 the Belgian arms transport "La Coubre" exploded in Havana harbour killing 136 people. As a staff-photographer at the Cuban newspaper "Revolution" Alberto "Korda" Gutierrez was assigned to cover the following memorial ceremony held in Havana. Among the prominent guests were Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre. Fidel Castro held one of his endless speeches and Korda was shooting away when Che Guevara suddenly appeared on the stage. Korda pointed his Leica at Che and managed to make two shots of him before Che turned around and disappeared. Back in his darkroom Korda enlarged among others one of the Che frames. The editor at "Revolution" picked a Castro-picture for the newspaper and returned the rest. Korda liked the Che picture and put it on the wall in his Havana-studio. The picture was still hanging on the wall in 1967 by now tobacco-tinted though when a man knocked on the door. The person did not present himself but handed over a letter of introduction from a high-ranking member of the Cuban administration. The letter asked Korda to help this person in his search for a good Che picture. Korda pointed at the wall saying: "This is my best Che picture". The visitor agreed and asked for 2 copies of the print. Korda told him to return the next day which he did. When asked the price of the prints Korda replied that since the visitor was a friend of the revolution he didn't have to pay. What Korda didn't know was that the visitor was the famous Italian publisher Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. Well known in Europe for smuggling the "Dr. Zivago" manuscript out of The Soviet Union. Feltrinelli came to Cuba directly from Bolivia where he had been negotiating the release of Regis Debray. Having learnt from Debray that Che Guevara was the guerrilla-leader in Bolivia and that the end might be near Feltrinelli saw a business opportunity in the possible assassination of Che. The corpse of Che Guevara was hardly cold in Bolivia before you could buy big posters all around the world with the Korda-image of Che. Copyright Feltrinelli it said down in the corner. Korda told me that in half a year Feltrinelli sold 2.ooo.ooo posters. Later on the image has been transformed transplanted transmitted and transfigured all over the world. Korda never received a penny. For one reason only - Cuba had not signed the Berne Convention. Fidel Castro described the protection of intellectual property as imperialistic "bullshit". Gruß Wolfgang Teichler posted via https://oly-e.de" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Datum: 03.06.2008 Uhrzeit: 9:06:56 Wolfgang Teichler Hallo Hans, ich habe fünf Jahre auf Kuba gelebt und gearbeitet und weiss deshalb vielleicht ein bisschen mehr über das Leben auf Kuba und das Leben des Che. Deine Vergleiche hinken! Die Kamera wurde außerdem an seinen Sohn übergeben und das Foto ist nun mal eines der meistverbreiteten auf der Welt, wurde mit einer Leica gemacht und dies wurde garantiert nicht von Kuba oder der Sowjetunion aus gesteuert. The story about the image of Che Guevara - as told by Alberto Korda" Gutierrez (1928-2001) in Havana - December '93 The 5th of March 1960 the Belgian arms transport "La Coubre" exploded in Havana harbour killing 136 people. As a staff-photographer at the Cuban newspaper "Revolution" Alberto "Korda" Gutierrez was assigned to cover the following memorial ceremony held in Havana. Among the prominent guests were Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre. Fidel Castro held one of his endless speeches and Korda was shooting away when Che Guevara suddenly appeared on the stage. Korda pointed his Leica at Che and managed to make two shots of him before Che turned around and disappeared. Back in his darkroom Korda enlarged among others one of the Che frames. The editor at "Revolution" picked a Castro-picture for the newspaper and returned the rest. Korda liked the Che picture and put it on the wall in his Havana-studio. The picture was still hanging on the wall in 1967 by now tobacco-tinted though when a man knocked on the door. The person did not present himself but handed over a letter of introduction from a high-ranking member of the Cuban administration. The letter asked Korda to help this person in his search for a good Che picture. Korda pointed at the wall saying: "This is my best Che picture". The visitor agreed and asked for 2 copies of the print. Korda told him to return the next day which he did. When asked the price of the prints Korda replied that since the visitor was a friend of the revolution he didn't have to pay. What Korda didn't know was that the visitor was the famous Italian publisher Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. Well known in Europe for smuggling the "Dr. Zivago" manuscript out of The Soviet Union. Feltrinelli came to Cuba directly from Bolivia where he had been negotiating the release of Regis Debray. Having learnt from Debray that Che Guevara was the guerrilla-leader in Bolivia and that the end might be near Feltrinelli saw a business opportunity in the possible assassination of Che. The corpse of Che Guevara was hardly cold in Bolivia before you could buy big posters all around the world with the Korda-image of Che. Copyright Feltrinelli it said down in the corner. Korda told me that in half a year Feltrinelli sold 2.ooo.ooo posters. Later on the image has been transformed transplanted transmitted and transfigured all over the world. Korda never received a penny. For one reason only - Cuba had not signed the Berne Convention. Fidel Castro described the protection of intellectual property as imperialistic "bullshit". Gruß Wolfgang Teichler posted via https://oly-e.de" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Datum: 11.06.2008 Uhrzeit: 11:05:16 Jan B Danke einmal an Euch alle. So ist eben doch noch aus einem schnell hingeschriebenen Statement, noch Dank Euch ein hö¶chst interessanter Beitrag geworden. Die Geschichte lebt eben bis heute und auch das Aufeinandertreffen Kordas mit einem recht gewissenlosen Geschäftsmann ist eine Geschichte, die sich täglich wiederholt. Leider war ich noch nie in Kuba, was mich aber sehr reizen würde, die Vergleiche mit der DDR und China, wo ich schon mehrfach war, halte ich auch für äusserst passend. Die Chinesen betrügen sich ständig untereinander, was schon auf der Strasse auffällt. Da herrscht in Kuba schon eine ganz andere Kultur, was ich so lese und von Freunden hö¶re. Ich wollte mich einfach kurz für Euere Beiträge bedanken, man kann aus Geschichte sehr viel lernen. Euer Jan -- posted via https://oly-e.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
